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dayse ([personal profile] dayse) wrote2008-02-17 12:44 am

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Sexism = hatred and discrimination towards a person based on their sex rather than individual merit.

Feminism = concerns/theories/cultural & political movements/philosophies regarding gender inequalities and equal rights for women.

Using the word "sexism" or calling a person/writer/television show sexist with very little thought, purpose, or consideration as to what that word means, robs it of some of its power. It also does nothing to educate on, bring awareness to, or empower feminism.

Just saying.

[identity profile] dayse.livejournal.com 2008-02-19 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
ILU TOO :D

[identity profile] wenelda.livejournal.com 2008-02-17 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
*gasps* you're being sexist! :O

[identity profile] dayse.livejournal.com 2008-02-19 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
:O!! I am! Damn all lady bits, damn them to hell!
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[personal profile] veracity 2008-02-17 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
*blinks* Did I miss something while attending a party earlier?

[identity profile] dayse.livejournal.com 2008-02-19 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, party, have fun :D?

And nah, just me being a bitter old fandom hag xD Me and [livejournal.com profile] jcjoeyfreak were discussing some minor spoilers for next week's SGA and I was predicting another fandom wank on the horizon about how sexist John Sheppard/the show/TPTB are. And like, it's not like I got anything against looking at the subtext, or at possible connotations in media about these issues (cuz helloz, English major/slasher here, I have REAL ESTATE in the subtext), it just BUGS sometimes. It bugs when I see people flinging the word 'sexism' around because John Sheppard stands up when Teyla leaves the room, or something equally as stupid.

[rants and flails]

:D
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[personal profile] veracity 2008-02-20 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Let's just say that the party was an education.

And I hate that about fandom. Of course, we go back to the Ffnet days and if that didn't make someone bitter nothing else would. I got up in arms over the women of SGA banner thing posted on the noticeboard yesterday, and usually I keep my nose clean, but I get so tired of the sexism being used as a scapegoat. I'm not an English major, but I have been in the slash community for awhile. And I've got a damn good reading comprehension skill to boot.

I've come to the conclusion that SGA fandom just likes to bitch about something because of external reasons and goes batshit in the process. Like they miss the "righteously indignant boat" by a mile. Standing up when a woman leaves the room is a sign of respect. I have plenty of issues with SGA's writing and executions, but I don't think it's an "against me, against them" discussion like they think it is.

[identity profile] dayse.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, that banner - that banner angered the blood SO MUCH. Because, srsly? SRSLY? This is what you're going to throw a fit over? I usually stay out of that ish, too, and I stayed out of it again - but omg Anna linked me to it, and I spazzed for a good two minutes.

I think you're right about the fandom. It makes me want to just burrow into a hole where there exists only my flist, the fic, and the show.
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[personal profile] veracity 2008-02-20 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
That banner. I'm still discussing it. Because for once, I don't care if I end up being eaten alive on F_W. I can't. This is one battle I feel like I need to do...because they're pretty much demeaning everything that our foremothers stood up against.

I HATED that Weir was shafted. The same way I HATED that Ford was shafted. Because it's not the characters fault the writers kinda blow at someone that's not John or Rodney. But I don't think misogyny means what they think it means.

I found the post by accident. It was on my filter, and the post title was interesting. Then I read it and lost a lot of respect for people I previously had some. As someone pointed out, this isn't a social commentary show. And it's not innovative. It's just fun fluff.

I think I might take the noticeboard off my flist, along with the newsletter, because it does nothing but upset me. Even my flist upsets me from the show pretty often. That's why I left fandom for the most part. I wanted to enjoy the show.

[identity profile] dayse.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I think I'm just going to stay away from it for a while, because the original post annoys me and all the people chiming in their agreement adds to the annoyance even more, AND then there's that one person who posted all 'it's really sad what these other people are saying, and they're probably women' or some shit. That made me :B big time. So ... yes. Best I stay away from now on.

I hated what they did to Weir, too. With Ford, I was a bit more understanding just because, while I really liked the character (he was sort of the 'every man', not a super cool flyboy, or a genius scientist) he became really interesting for me after he got fed on by the Wraith. And it sucks that he had to just disappear off the face of the map a few episodes after that.

I guess I associate Weir's cast-off more akin to what they did to Carson. Both of these character deaths pissed me off to an extent because I felt they were unnecessary and done for shock-value more than good story telling. I don't see sexism or misogyny being a determining factor in EITHER of these character 'deaths'.

And from a behind-the-scenes pov, they were both offered the opportunity to come back and one chose to and one chose not to.

I was thinking of getting rid of the noticeboard and newsletter, too, or at the very least the noticeboard. I do like my updates :)
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[personal profile] veracity 2008-02-20 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think they saddest thing for me is that I lost a lot of respect for people I had initially respected, and have for almost two years. Now I think they're crazy. Which is sad. Because they're frothing over the mouth for the wrong reasons. A very hyberbolic reason at that. I mean, I don't see why being feminist means you have to be a crazycakes person. I'm fairly vocal. No, me? Really? You'd never believe it. And I think the women deserve better, cohesive story lines, but you can't expect that when the men don't get it either.

I'm more upset with how they handled Heightmeyer and Weir's death, because we had already had a pretty hard blow from Weir, and they took away another one of Teyla's friends. Let's be upset with that for a minute, the fact the women can't seem to have a same sex buddy system for long. Weir could have been utilized more, but I don't think the writers quite understand how to develop the character. They're used to their formula, and she upset it. I think it would have been fantastic to discuss how she doesn't like guns and military force to being in charge of it and having to deal with the morality of it all. Especially if she had been forced to learn to shoot for safety purposes.

I hated what they did to Ford, mostly because he was my gateway into the show. I was him. The slightly immature, goofy type who really liked it when things go boom. And it would have been better if they had kept up with him, but they kinda dropped something that could have been useful. Especially during the Michael storyline. Given that you know Ford is their enemy.

I tend to think Weir and Beckett bit the dust because they had to free up money for Carter to come over. It has nothing to do with the attitudes of gender, but of what would free up more money. Which is to be expected. And given how Torri, Paul, and Claire found out, I can't blame someone for not wanting to come back. Especially given their bosses attitudes of it. If Torri did come back, it would be a very strained relationship and it would show in the episode.

I was thinking of both because they seem to foster and fester attitudes that seem to make me hate the fandom. And that's a shame.